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    Post by Eurasia Mon Jun 01, 2015 10:57 pm

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    Post by New Atanea Tue Jun 02, 2015 2:51 am

    So what is the current schedule?
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    Post by Kaevi Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:21 pm

    New Atanea wrote:So what is the current schedule?

    Find those who have breached human rights and work with organizations to improve general quality of life I suppose.
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    Post by UK of Zackalantis Wed Nov 11, 2015 2:47 am

    The UKZ would request this commission launch an investigation into the persecution of religious minorities on Europe and Asia.
    The UKZ does not state that these violations are true but would like this commission to investigate the possibility of persecution against the religious and social minorities in the Empire of Europe and Asia.
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    Post by Eurasia Wed Nov 11, 2015 4:05 am

    Eurasia is offended in the extreme that the delegate from Zackalantis would suggest Eurasia to be persecuting minorities in any way. Eurasia demands the Zach delegate prove these accusations immediately or we will bring them before the Court of Justice for defamation.

    Eurasia is also unaware as to whom the delegate from UKZ refers to with the term "Europe and Asia". While we assume that the nation referred to is Eurasia, but we wish to inform that this will void it of any legal meaning.
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    Post by Eurasia Wed Nov 11, 2015 4:08 am

    Eurasia would also like to request this commission investigate Zackalantis for persecution of religious minorities. We do not state these are true, but we request an investigation be conducted into these possible untruths presently.
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    Post by UK of Zackalantis Wed Nov 11, 2015 3:23 pm

    The UKZ has brought this to the commission due to the recent protests in Eurasia by the Christian community. And what makes the Eurasian delegation feel that the UKZ would care in the least if Eurasia was offended.

    Eurasia on the other hand has no proof for the persecution of religious minorities in UKZ
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    Post by UK of Zackalantis Wed Nov 11, 2015 3:27 pm

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    Post by Eurasia Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:14 pm

    If the UKZ delegation is willing to believe the demands of a fundamentalist and violent protest without even hearing the side of the Eurasian Government, then we feel they lack the basic mental faculties to request an investigation.

    Furthermore, it is the opinion of the Eurasian Delegation that this request for investigation is simply the UKZ Government acting out a petty vendetta due to Eurasia's defeat of their deeply flawed terraforming legislation.

    Thus, being that the evidence provided by the UKZ Government is, quite frankly, not evidence at all but mere hearsay and conjecture, Eurasia stands behind our accusation of the UKZ Government of committing crimes against minorities. The newly elected Prime Minister said in his inauguration "The problem lies in...the ethnic minorities in the UKZ.

    Lastly, Eurasia also believes this is a blatant attempt to malign Eurasia due to the upcoming supranational elections, and we demand that the UKZ cease with their petty attempts to defame Eurasia, and we reiterate that should this continue we will bring the UKZ before the Court of Justice.

    OOC: If you want to take every RP I've ever used and use it out of context, I can either totally ignore you and this (which I've already been doing to an extent since you're utterly irrelevant) or I can begin taking all of your RP out of context, and instead I'll just bring a dozen court cases against you. Stop being an idiot and a petulant child.

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    Post by Eurasia Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:15 pm

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    Post by New Tarajan Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:45 pm

    OOC: Eurasia, if Zack wants to start this HRC RP, he shall be free to do so as it has always been. Please, moderate yourself.

    The Tarajani delegate is deeply concerned about this debate. We ask to the parts, and particularly to Eurasia, to moderate its terms, and not to start using the Court of Justice as a tool for threats.

    We believe that this issue could only be resolved inside the Human Rights Commission. Thus, we humbly ask to one of its members not involved in this debate, to express its own opinion on the viability of an eventual investigation.

    Thank you.
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    Post by Eurasia Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:35 pm

    OOC: UKZ is purposefully distorting an RP for his own gain. Explain to me why I should not do the same? Stop condescending.

    Eurasia is concerned that the Zach delegate is purposefully distorting the facts of the protests in a vain attempt to malign Eurasia. While we appreciate the attempts of the Tarajani delegation to be civil, Eurasia feels civility is futile in the face of such obviously biased requests as the one put forth by Zackalantis.

    However, Eurasia is not using the Court as a means for threatening Zackalantis. Rather, we use the Court as a means to defend ourselves against such disgusting attempts to defame us.
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    Post by UK of Zackalantis Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:51 pm

    And that is the problem, honorable delegates of this commission. Eurasia does not believe in civility. When the Christian community protested they forced them away with the military and police.

    Unfortunately religious minorities haven't been getting great representation in the Zack government, however if the members of this commission read our PM's speech at his innaguration he has said that they will improve this problem. He is in fact a part of a religious minority himself.

    Euraisan laws in place for the protection of minorities aren't working on the ground if the christian minorities are being discriminated against in the work place.

    Delegate of Eurasia we just want this Commission to find out for sure if the alleged persecution is true and if it is true then work with the Eurasian government in solving the problem.
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    Post by Eurasia Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:55 pm

    Eurasia would remind the Delegate from UKZ that the armed police presence is due to the violent riots that occured in Patavium, by Christians against Muslims, just a year ago, which resulted in numerous dead. The appeared lack of civility is a very necessary precautionary measure.

    While the Imperial attitude towards religious minorities has been, in the past, negative, the claims of the protestors that unfair hiring practices still exist is utterly fallacious, and if they do indeed exist there are mechanisms to prevent it or to prosecute it, being what the situation warrants.
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    Post by New Tarajan Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:56 pm

    Please, fellow delegates: keep calm.

    Let us wait for the HRC to express its opinion about the viability of this case. This is the only way to keep this debate into a reasonable framework.

    Also, I wish to remember to everybody here that they could ask for investigations, collecting of evidences and advises, to the Prosecutor General Office.


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    Post by Eurasia Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:59 pm

    OOC: Who's on the HRC?
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    Post by New Tarajan Thu Nov 12, 2015 12:00 am

    OOC: You, Kaevi, and New Atanea. Although I don't know if NA is still playing.
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    Post by UK of Zackalantis Thu Nov 12, 2015 12:04 am

    OOC: NA left the region I believe.
    Maybe since elections are coming soon we can continue this after the new members take seat
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    Post by Eurasia Thu Nov 12, 2015 12:17 am

    OOC: 90% sure that that list is out of date, but since we don't have any other option I vote we run with that at least until the election.
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    Post by New Tarajan Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:28 am

    Than, only Kaevi is left.
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    Post by Kaevi Sun Nov 15, 2015 2:37 am

    OOC: Sorry for not being present. The current HRC (at least until these upcoming elections end) are three of these people: Eurasia, New Tarajan, Antanares, Aloia, Duresia. You all may want to wait until the new HRC is elected so we'll know for sure who is in it.
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    Post by New Tarajan Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:40 am

    OOC: I agree with Kaevi. Let's wait for the incoming elections, at this point Smile
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    Post by Eurasia Wed Nov 18, 2015 1:51 am

    OOC: If I remember I'm not even on the HRC any more, not since last election. I think Antanares might be on it? Either way we should wait, I agree.
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    Post by UK of Zackalantis Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:45 am

    Now that the new HRC is in place, the UKZ would like to once again raise the issue of the alleged persecution of minorities in Eurasia
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    Post by Eurasia Mon Nov 23, 2015 6:41 am

    Eurasia wishes to assure the HRC that, whilst historically there have been persecutions of minorities, the Imperial Government has taken measures in the past century to remedy this. All Eurasians, regardless of background, are equal in the eyes of the law. If the Delegation from the UKZ is referring to individual biases, the Imperial Government emphatically reminds all present that it is not the thought police and is incapable of changing personal beliefs.

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