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Vajorr- Global Force
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Vernius- Posts : 8
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I like the idea of a Minister of Communication and a Minister of Culture, but you could have one position have the powers and responsibilities of both (running the regional newspapers and organizing events).
Personally, I would like the idea of a separate position for Recruitment. The Founders and Delegate already have a lot of responsibilities; having a different person in charge of recruitment means that person only has to focus on one job. Hopefully, that means that the Minister will do a better than average job of recruiting.
Personally, I would like the idea of a separate position for Recruitment. The Founders and Delegate already have a lot of responsibilities; having a different person in charge of recruitment means that person only has to focus on one job. Hopefully, that means that the Minister will do a better than average job of recruiting.
Vajorr- Global Force
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I've created my own draft from what we gathered up. If you don't like something don't forget to leave a note!
- My Draft:
Preamble
We, the nations of Esamir, on this day of August 2014, do pledge that we will live up to our creed in this Constitution. We will be a beacon to the world for our advocacy of Truth, Justice, and Freedom. This Constitution will be the permanent, yet amendable, document from which the Region will function.
Article 1: Government Operations
1. The people of Esamir are proud to establish a democratic multiparty government to rule over this region. We also wish this Constitution to be liquid to reflect needed changes in the region.
2. The people of Esamir, due to past experience, hereby proudly announces the vital separation of the Founder from the Government of Esamir. The Founder shall be an shared account operated by 5 chosen nations which will only be a transparent body tasked with administering the region of Esamir. The Founder shall have no power whatsoever in the government or roleplaying. Any of the five nations given access to The Designer may decide to give up the power of the Founder but the remaining members of the Founder must complete the process of appointing a nation to the vacant position within two months. Failure to do so within the set time period shall give power to the legislature to appoint a nation to the post with bicameral approval. As a Shared Founder, it is a rotating seat, meaning that any of the five nations may have access at any time, usually identifying themselves when they post for the general population. As Founder, they have access to the Founder abilities limited by the Government to which the Founder serves. A nation may have access to the Founder revoked with bicameral approval from the legislature.
Article 2: Legislative Functions
1. The Legislature is divided into a bicameral, or 2 chambered, legislature called Parliament. These 2 chambers are Security Senate and the Esamir Assembly.
2. A member of Parliament, to be known as a MP, is an individual responsible to drafting and voting on potential legislation. To qualify as a MP, a candidate must be in the region for at least a week and have a verified forum account.
3. The Security Senate which is the upper house of Parliament, shall be tasked with proposing and voting on legislation. The main function of the Senate is to deal with legislation specifically dealing with interregional issues and matters of security. The MPs of the 9 seat Senate shall have a one month term before the seats are up for election.
4. The Esamir Assembly, or the lower house, is the primary body of Parliament. The main task of the Assembly is to draft and vote on all legislation affecting roleplaying in Esamir. In addition to this the Assembly will also elect a Chancellor, as well as approving Chancellor and Presidential appointments to represent the Esamir Government. The 15 seat Assembly will have one month terms before the seats are up for election.
Article 3: Executive Functions
1. The executive branch is an association of officials that are democratically elected by majority vote by either parliamentary vote or direct vote by the people.
2. The Executive Branch shall consist of the positions of a Chancellor, a President, and a Council of Ministers.
3. The main duties of the Executive Branch are representing the Esamir Government at home and abroad and supporting the operations of the Legislature.
4. To be elected to an Executive position, a potential candidate must have resided in the region for at least a week and have a verified forum account.
Article 4: Executive Duties
1. The Chancellor as the Head of the Government of Esamir has the primary duty of overseeing the daily operations of the Government. The primary role of that duty is to coordinate the functions of the Council of Ministers, especially the Ministers of Intelligence, Recruitment, and Internal Affairs. At the beginning of the Chancellor’s term, he/she will appoint those said Ministers that will be approved by Parliament. The Chancellor may also introduce legislation into Parliament to be voted on. The Chancellor is elected to a two month term repeatable only once by members of the Esamir Assembly. The Chancellor may be removed from office by a vote of no-confidence by a two-thirds majority vote by the Assembly. If the Chancellor has committed improper conduct he/she may be impeached by a three-fourths majority vote by a joint sitting of the Government.
2. The President (or the WA delegate) has the primary obligation of representing Esamir abroad. As head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs which he/she appoints, the President has a large variety of duties dealing with matters of foreign nature. The most significant power as President is representing Esamir in the World Assembly. The President is elected by the people to a two month term repeatable once consecutively only. If the President has committed improper conduct he/she may be impeached by a three-fourths majority vote by a joint sitting of the Government.
3. The Minister of Internal Affairs, which chosen by the Chancellor, manages the details of the Esamir Government. As Speaker of the House for both Chambers, the MoIA coordinates the legislative process and controls any debates that follow. If needed the MoIA may also make announcement to the region of important government decisions. To assist in his/her duties, the Minister can nominate member nations to be a part of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
4. To ensure the growth of the region, the Minister of Recruitment is tasked with convincing nations to join Esamir. His/her main task is to manage the Nationstates++ Recruitment page and creating convincing recruitment telegrams. To assist in his/her duties, the Minister can nominate member nations to be a part of the Ministry of Recruitment.
5. The Minister of Foreign Affairs, headed by the President of Esamir, is tasked with representing Esamir abroad. The President may appoint member nations to assist with the President’s duties. The Ministry will be responsible for the creation and maintenance of embassies and alliances abroad.
6. The Minister of Intelligence [UNDER CONSTRUCTION]
Article 5-The Judiciary
1. The Judiciary is divided into a three part system. The parts are The Chief Justice, The Associate Justices, and The Jury.
2. The Chief Justice is the leader of the Judiciary. The Chief Justice is electable or re-electable during the General Elections. They will announce the decision of the Jury.
3. There are to be 6 Associate Justices. The Associate Justices are electable or re-electable during the General Elections. They will support the Chief Justice.
4. The Jury System is composed of a five-member jury selected in a randomized manner from the active members. To ensure the anonymity for the jury members, accounts labeled "Jury #_" would be assigned to the members who will then decide amongst themselves the verdict and punishment. If the defendant wishes to ask for a public listing of the jury votes, the justice leading the court would ask the jury accounts to list their true verdict.
Article 6-Rights of All Nations in Esamir
The Rights listed below are the Rights of the Nations in the Region of Esamir.
1. The Right to vote for Regional President.
2. The Right to vote in polls and have their vote respected.
3. The Right to Amend the Constitution.
4. The Freedom to do whatever they like to their nations, as long as internal security is not threatened.
5. The Right to Free Speech.
6. The Right to protest against their Government.
7. The Right to post on the Regional Message Board.
8. The Right to Choose whether to Participate in Regional Events.
9. The Right to Leave the Region.
Article 8-Elections
[UNDER CONSTRUCTION]
Article 7-The Process of Amending the Constitution
1. Amending the Constitution occurs through a Constitutional Convention, where nations submit and discuss amendments to the Constitution. After due acceptance of the Amendment by a three-fourth majority vote from a joint sitting of Parliament , it will be added to the Constitution.
- Executive Powers
- Finalizing Ministries
- Powers of Ministries
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Kaevi- Ascendancy
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Planita wrote:I've created my own draft from what we gathered up. If you don't like something don't forget to leave a note!CURRENT ISSUES:
- My Draft:
Preamble
We, the nations of Esamir, on this day of August 2014, do pledge that we will live up to our creed in this Constitution. We will be a beacon to the world for our advocacy of Truth, Justice, and Freedom. This Constitution will be the permanent, yet amendable, document from which the Region will function.
Article 1: Government Operations
1. The people of Esamir are proud to establish a democratic multiparty government to rule over this region. We also wish this Constitution to be liquid to reflect needed changes in the region.
2. The people of Esamir, due to past experience, hereby proudly announces the vital separation of the Founder from the Government of Esamir. The Founder shall be an shared account operated by 5 chosen nations which will only be a transparent body tasked with administering the region of Esamir. The Founder shall have no power whatsoever in the government or roleplaying. Any of the five nations given access to The Designer may decide to give up the power of the Founder but the remaining members of the Founder must complete the process of appointing a nation to the vacant position within two months. Failure to do so within the set time period shall give power to the legislature to appoint a nation to the post with bicameral approval. As a Shared Founder, it is a rotating seat, meaning that any of the five nations may have access at any time, usually identifying themselves when they post for the general population. As Founder, they have access to the Founder abilities limited by the Government to which the Founder serves. A nation may have access to the Founder revoked with bicameral approval from the legislature.
Article 2: Legislative Functions
1. The Legislature is divided into a bicameral, or 2 chambered, legislature called Parliament. These 2 chambers are Security Senate and the Esamir Assembly.
2. A member of Parliament, to be known as a MP, is an individual responsible to drafting and voting on potential legislation. To qualify as a MP, a candidate must be in the region for at least a week and have a verified forum account.
3. The Security Senate which is the upper house of Parliament, shall be tasked with proposing and voting on legislation. The main function of the Senate is to deal with legislation specifically dealing with interregional issues and matters of security. The MPs of the 9 seat Senate shall have a two month term repeatable twice.
4. The Esamir Assembly, or the lower house, is the primary body of Parliament. The main task of the Assembly is to draft and vote on all legislation affecting roleplaying in Esamir. In addition to this the Assembly will also elect a Chancellor, as well as approving Chancellor and Presidential appointments to represent the Esamir Government. The 15 seat Assembly will have one month terms repeatable once.
Article 3: Executive Functions
1. The executive branch is an association of officials that are democratically elected by majority vote by either parliamentary vote or direct vote by the people.
2. The Executive Branch shall consist of the positions of a Chancellor, a President, and a Council of Ministers.
3. The main duties of the Executive Branch are representing the Esamir Government at home and abroad and supporting the operations of the Legislature.
4. To be elected to an Executive position, a potential candidate must have resided in the region for at least a week and have a verified forum account.
Article 4: Executive Duties
1. The Chancellor as the Head of the Government of Esamir has the primary duty of overseeing the daily operations of the Government. The primary role of that duty is to coordinate the functions of the Council of Ministers, especially the Ministers of Intelligence, Recruitment, and Internal Affairs. At the beginning of the Chancellor’s term, he/she will appoint those said Ministers that will be approved by Parliament. The Chancellor may also introduce legislation into Parliament to be voted on. The Chancellor is elected to a two month term repeatable only once by members of the Esamir Assembly. The Chancellor may be removed from office by a vote of no-confidence by a two-thirds majority vote by the Assembly. If the Chancellor has committed improper conduct he/she may be impeached by a three-fourths majority vote by a joint sitting of the Government.
2. The President (or the WA delegate) has the primary obligation of representing Esamir abroad. As head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs which he/she appoints, the President has a large variety of duties dealing with matters of foreign nature. The most significant power as President is representing Esamir in the World Assembly. The President is elected by the people to a two month term repeatable once consecutively only. If the President has committed improper conduct he/she may be impeached by a three-fourths majority vote by a joint sitting of the Government.
3. The Minister of Internal Affairs, which chosen by the Chancellor, manages the details of the Esamir Government. As Speaker of the House for both Chambers, the MoIA coordinates the legislative process and controls any debates that follow. If needed the MoIA may also make announcement to the region of important government decisions. To assist in his/her duties, the Minister can nominate member nations to be a part of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
4. To ensure the growth of the region, the Minister of Recruitment is tasked with convincing nations to join Esamir. His/her main task is to manage the Nationstates++ Recruitment page and creating convincing recruitment telegrams. To assist in his/her duties, the Minister can nominate member nations to be a part of the Ministry of Recruitment.
5. The Minister of Foreign Affairs, headed by the President of Esamir, is tasked with representing Esamir abroad. The President may appoint member nations to assist with the President’s duties. The Ministry will be responsible for the creation and maintenance of embassies and alliances abroad.
6. The Minister of Intelligence [UNDER CONSTRUCTION]
Article 5-The Judiciary
1. The Judiciary is divided into a three part system. The parts are The Chief Justice, The Associate Justices, and The Jury.
2. The Chief Justice is the leader of the Judiciary. The Chief Justice is electable or re-electable during the General Elections. They will announce the decision of the Jury.
3. There are to be 6 Associate Justices. The Associate Justices are electable or re-electable during the General Elections. They will support the Chief Justice.
4. The Jury System is composed of a five-member jury selected in a randomized manner from the active members. To ensure the anonymity for the jury members, accounts labeled "Jury #_" would be assigned to the members who will then decide amongst themselves the verdict and punishment. If the defendant wishes to ask for a public listing of the jury votes, the justice leading the court would ask the jury accounts to list their true verdict.
Article 6-Rights of All Nations in Esamir
The Rights listed below are the Rights of the Nations in the Region of Esamir.
1. The Right to vote for Regional President.
2. The Right to vote in polls and have their vote respected.
3. The Right to Amend the Constitution.
4. The Freedom to do whatever they like to their nations, as long as internal security is not threatened.
5. The Right to Free Speech.
6. The Right to protest against their Government.
7. The Right to post on the Regional Message Board.
8. The Right to Choose whether to Participate in Regional Events.
9. The Right to Leave the Region.
Article 8-Elections
[UNDER CONSTRUCTION]
Article 7-The Process of Amending the Constitution
1. Amending the Constitution occurs through a Constitutional Convention, where nations submit and discuss amendments to the Constitution. After due acceptance of the Amendment by a three-fourth majority vote from a joint sitting of Parliament , it will be added to the Constitution.
- Executive Powers
- Finalizing Ministries
- Powers of Ministries
On the Security Senate and Esamir Assembly, when you say repeatable terms do you mean that members can only hold a certain number of terms before becoming ineligible for any more parliamentary service, or that a member can only succeed oneself a certain number of times before being required to take a break and run for reelection in the following elections?
Also, on the jury part of the document, can the name "Jury #_" be changed to "Juror #_"? When originally proposing the idea it apparently never crossed me that "juror" meant individual members of a jury, whereas "jury" means a collective body of jurors.
For elections, I think we should elect individual members to whatever post they register for instead of allowing one member (leader of political party in question) to pick favorites when potentially getting fewer seats than total members.
Reisal- Global Force
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I think members of parliament should not have term limitsPlanita wrote:I've created my own draft from what we gathered up. If you don't like something don't forget to leave a note!CURRENT ISSUES:
- My Draft:
Preamble
We, the nations of Esamir, on this day of August 2014, do pledge that we will live up to our creed in this Constitution. We will be a beacon to the world for our advocacy of Truth, Justice, and Freedom. This Constitution will be the permanent, yet amendable, document from which the Region will function.
Article 1: Government Operations
1. The people of Esamir are proud to establish a democratic multiparty government to rule over this region. We also wish this Constitution to be liquid to reflect needed changes in the region.
2. The people of Esamir, due to past experience, hereby proudly announces the vital separation of the Founder from the Government of Esamir. The Founder shall be an shared account operated by 5 chosen nations which will only be a transparent body tasked with administering the region of Esamir. The Founder shall have no power whatsoever in the government or roleplaying. Any of the five nations given access to The Designer may decide to give up the power of the Founder but the remaining members of the Founder must complete the process of appointing a nation to the vacant position within two months. Failure to do so within the set time period shall give power to the legislature to appoint a nation to the post with bicameral approval. As a Shared Founder, it is a rotating seat, meaning that any of the five nations may have access at any time, usually identifying themselves when they post for the general population. As Founder, they have access to the Founder abilities limited by the Government to which the Founder serves. A nation may have access to the Founder revoked with bicameral approval from the legislature.
Article 2: Legislative Functions
1. The Legislature is divided into a bicameral, or 2 chambered, legislature called Parliament. These 2 chambers are Security Senate and the Esamir Assembly.
2. A member of Parliament, to be known as a MP, is an individual responsible to drafting and voting on potential legislation. To qualify as a MP, a candidate must be in the region for at least a week and have a verified forum account.
3. The Security Senate which is the upper house of Parliament, shall be tasked with proposing and voting on legislation. The main function of the Senate is to deal with legislation specifically dealing with interregional issues and matters of security. The MPs of the 9 seat Senate shall have a two month term repeatable twice.
4. The Esamir Assembly, or the lower house, is the primary body of Parliament. The main task of the Assembly is to draft and vote on all legislation affecting roleplaying in Esamir. In addition to this the Assembly will also elect a Chancellor, as well as approving Chancellor and Presidential appointments to represent the Esamir Government. The 15 seat Assembly will have one month terms repeatable once.
Article 3: Executive Functions
1. The executive branch is an association of officials that are democratically elected by majority vote by either parliamentary vote or direct vote by the people.
2. The Executive Branch shall consist of the positions of a Chancellor, a President, and a Council of Ministers.
3. The main duties of the Executive Branch are representing the Esamir Government at home and abroad and supporting the operations of the Legislature.
4. To be elected to an Executive position, a potential candidate must have resided in the region for at least a week and have a verified forum account.
Article 4: Executive Duties
1. The Chancellor as the Head of the Government of Esamir has the primary duty of overseeing the daily operations of the Government. The primary role of that duty is to coordinate the functions of the Council of Ministers, especially the Ministers of Intelligence, Recruitment, and Internal Affairs. At the beginning of the Chancellor’s term, he/she will appoint those said Ministers that will be approved by Parliament. The Chancellor may also introduce legislation into Parliament to be voted on. The Chancellor is elected to a two month term repeatable only once by members of the Esamir Assembly. The Chancellor may be removed from office by a vote of no-confidence by a two-thirds majority vote by the Assembly. If the Chancellor has committed improper conduct he/she may be impeached by a three-fourths majority vote by a joint sitting of the Government.
2. The President (or the WA delegate) has the primary obligation of representing Esamir abroad. As head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs which he/she appoints, the President has a large variety of duties dealing with matters of foreign nature. The most significant power as President is representing Esamir in the World Assembly. The President is elected by the people to a two month term repeatable once consecutively only. If the President has committed improper conduct he/she may be impeached by a three-fourths majority vote by a joint sitting of the Government.
3. The Minister of Internal Affairs, which chosen by the Chancellor, manages the details of the Esamir Government. As Speaker of the House for both Chambers, the MoIA coordinates the legislative process and controls any debates that follow. If needed the MoIA may also make announcement to the region of important government decisions. To assist in his/her duties, the Minister can nominate member nations to be a part of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
4. To ensure the growth of the region, the Minister of Recruitment is tasked with convincing nations to join Esamir. His/her main task is to manage the Nationstates++ Recruitment page and creating convincing recruitment telegrams. To assist in his/her duties, the Minister can nominate member nations to be a part of the Ministry of Recruitment.
5. The Minister of Foreign Affairs, headed by the President of Esamir, is tasked with representing Esamir abroad. The President may appoint member nations to assist with the President’s duties. The Ministry will be responsible for the creation and maintenance of embassies and alliances abroad.
6. The Minister of Intelligence [UNDER CONSTRUCTION]
Article 5-The Judiciary
1. The Judiciary is divided into a three part system. The parts are The Chief Justice, The Associate Justices, and The Jury.
2. The Chief Justice is the leader of the Judiciary. The Chief Justice is electable or re-electable during the General Elections. They will announce the decision of the Jury.
3. There are to be 6 Associate Justices. The Associate Justices are electable or re-electable during the General Elections. They will support the Chief Justice.
4. The Jury System is composed of a five-member jury selected in a randomized manner from the active members. To ensure the anonymity for the jury members, accounts labeled "Jury #_" would be assigned to the members who will then decide amongst themselves the verdict and punishment. If the defendant wishes to ask for a public listing of the jury votes, the justice leading the court would ask the jury accounts to list their true verdict.
Article 6-Rights of All Nations in Esamir
The Rights listed below are the Rights of the Nations in the Region of Esamir.
1. The Right to vote for Regional President.
2. The Right to vote in polls and have their vote respected.
3. The Right to Amend the Constitution.
4. The Freedom to do whatever they like to their nations, as long as internal security is not threatened.
5. The Right to Free Speech.
6. The Right to protest against their Government.
7. The Right to post on the Regional Message Board.
8. The Right to Choose whether to Participate in Regional Events.
9. The Right to Leave the Region.
Article 8-Elections
[UNDER CONSTRUCTION]
Article 7-The Process of Amending the Constitution
1. Amending the Constitution occurs through a Constitutional Convention, where nations submit and discuss amendments to the Constitution. After due acceptance of the Amendment by a three-fourth majority vote from a joint sitting of Parliament , it will be added to the Constitution.
- Executive Powers
- Finalizing Ministries
- Powers of Ministries
Eurasia- Supremacy
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Talanzaar wrote:I think members of parliament should not have term limitsPlanita wrote:I've created my own draft from what we gathered up. If you don't like something don't forget to leave a note!CURRENT ISSUES:
- My Draft:
Preamble
We, the nations of Esamir, on this day of August 2014, do pledge that we will live up to our creed in this Constitution. We will be a beacon to the world for our advocacy of Truth, Justice, and Freedom. This Constitution will be the permanent, yet amendable, document from which the Region will function.
Article 1: Government Operations
1. The people of Esamir are proud to establish a democratic multiparty government to rule over this region. We also wish this Constitution to be liquid to reflect needed changes in the region.
2. The people of Esamir, due to past experience, hereby proudly announces the vital separation of the Founder from the Government of Esamir. The Founder shall be an shared account operated by 5 chosen nations which will only be a transparent body tasked with administering the region of Esamir. The Founder shall have no power whatsoever in the government or roleplaying. Any of the five nations given access to The Designer may decide to give up the power of the Founder but the remaining members of the Founder must complete the process of appointing a nation to the vacant position within two months. Failure to do so within the set time period shall give power to the legislature to appoint a nation to the post with bicameral approval. As a Shared Founder, it is a rotating seat, meaning that any of the five nations may have access at any time, usually identifying themselves when they post for the general population. As Founder, they have access to the Founder abilities limited by the Government to which the Founder serves. A nation may have access to the Founder revoked with bicameral approval from the legislature.
Article 2: Legislative Functions
1. The Legislature is divided into a bicameral, or 2 chambered, legislature called Parliament. These 2 chambers are Security Senate and the Esamir Assembly.
2. A member of Parliament, to be known as a MP, is an individual responsible to drafting and voting on potential legislation. To qualify as a MP, a candidate must be in the region for at least a week and have a verified forum account.
3. The Security Senate which is the upper house of Parliament, shall be tasked with proposing and voting on legislation. The main function of the Senate is to deal with legislation specifically dealing with interregional issues and matters of security. The MPs of the 9 seat Senate shall have a two month term repeatable twice.
4. The Esamir Assembly, or the lower house, is the primary body of Parliament. The main task of the Assembly is to draft and vote on all legislation affecting roleplaying in Esamir. In addition to this the Assembly will also elect a Chancellor, as well as approving Chancellor and Presidential appointments to represent the Esamir Government. The 15 seat Assembly will have one month terms repeatable once.
Article 3: Executive Functions
1. The executive branch is an association of officials that are democratically elected by majority vote by either parliamentary vote or direct vote by the people.
2. The Executive Branch shall consist of the positions of a Chancellor, a President, and a Council of Ministers.
3. The main duties of the Executive Branch are representing the Esamir Government at home and abroad and supporting the operations of the Legislature.
4. To be elected to an Executive position, a potential candidate must have resided in the region for at least a week and have a verified forum account.
Article 4: Executive Duties
1. The Chancellor as the Head of the Government of Esamir has the primary duty of overseeing the daily operations of the Government. The primary role of that duty is to coordinate the functions of the Council of Ministers, especially the Ministers of Intelligence, Recruitment, and Internal Affairs. At the beginning of the Chancellor’s term, he/she will appoint those said Ministers that will be approved by Parliament. The Chancellor may also introduce legislation into Parliament to be voted on. The Chancellor is elected to a two month term repeatable only once by members of the Esamir Assembly. The Chancellor may be removed from office by a vote of no-confidence by a two-thirds majority vote by the Assembly. If the Chancellor has committed improper conduct he/she may be impeached by a three-fourths majority vote by a joint sitting of the Government.
2. The President (or the WA delegate) has the primary obligation of representing Esamir abroad. As head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs which he/she appoints, the President has a large variety of duties dealing with matters of foreign nature. The most significant power as President is representing Esamir in the World Assembly. The President is elected by the people to a two month term repeatable once consecutively only. If the President has committed improper conduct he/she may be impeached by a three-fourths majority vote by a joint sitting of the Government.
3. The Minister of Internal Affairs, which chosen by the Chancellor, manages the details of the Esamir Government. As Speaker of the House for both Chambers, the MoIA coordinates the legislative process and controls any debates that follow. If needed the MoIA may also make announcement to the region of important government decisions. To assist in his/her duties, the Minister can nominate member nations to be a part of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
4. To ensure the growth of the region, the Minister of Recruitment is tasked with convincing nations to join Esamir. His/her main task is to manage the Nationstates++ Recruitment page and creating convincing recruitment telegrams. To assist in his/her duties, the Minister can nominate member nations to be a part of the Ministry of Recruitment.
5. The Minister of Foreign Affairs, headed by the President of Esamir, is tasked with representing Esamir abroad. The President may appoint member nations to assist with the President’s duties. The Ministry will be responsible for the creation and maintenance of embassies and alliances abroad.
6. The Minister of Intelligence [UNDER CONSTRUCTION]
Article 5-The Judiciary
1. The Judiciary is divided into a three part system. The parts are The Chief Justice, The Associate Justices, and The Jury.
2. The Chief Justice is the leader of the Judiciary. The Chief Justice is electable or re-electable during the General Elections. They will announce the decision of the Jury.
3. There are to be 6 Associate Justices. The Associate Justices are electable or re-electable during the General Elections. They will support the Chief Justice.
4. The Jury System is composed of a five-member jury selected in a randomized manner from the active members. To ensure the anonymity for the jury members, accounts labeled "Jury #_" would be assigned to the members who will then decide amongst themselves the verdict and punishment. If the defendant wishes to ask for a public listing of the jury votes, the justice leading the court would ask the jury accounts to list their true verdict.
Article 6-Rights of All Nations in Esamir
The Rights listed below are the Rights of the Nations in the Region of Esamir.
1. The Right to vote for Regional President.
2. The Right to vote in polls and have their vote respected.
3. The Right to Amend the Constitution.
4. The Freedom to do whatever they like to their nations, as long as internal security is not threatened.
5. The Right to Free Speech.
6. The Right to protest against their Government.
7. The Right to post on the Regional Message Board.
8. The Right to Choose whether to Participate in Regional Events.
9. The Right to Leave the Region.
Article 8-Elections
[UNDER CONSTRUCTION]
Article 7-The Process of Amending the Constitution
1. Amending the Constitution occurs through a Constitutional Convention, where nations submit and discuss amendments to the Constitution. After due acceptance of the Amendment by a three-fourth majority vote from a joint sitting of Parliament , it will be added to the Constitution.
- Executive Powers
- Finalizing Ministries
- Powers of Ministries
I agree. Term limits don't make sense for elected legislators.
Vajorr- Global Force
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So... you are essentially saying they will have those seats forever?
Eurasia- Supremacy
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Planita wrote:So... you are essentially saying they will have those seats forever?
No, a term is how many times they can be reelected.
Vajorr- Global Force
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Oh Its been changed
Reisal- Global Force
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Also, having an election for the Security Senate every month seems like a bit much. We should have all elections in the same time period every two or so months.
Vajorr- Global Force
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Didn't we have a election every month in the World Alliance?
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"The Chancellor is elected to a two month term repeatable only once by members of the Esamir Assembly"
"The President is elected by the people to a two month term repeatable once consecutively only"
I think a better idea would be that a nation can hold office as President/Chancellor for two consecutive terms (hey can run for re-election), but then is ineligible to serve again until sitting out one complete term.
"The President is elected by the people to a two month term repeatable once consecutively only"
I think a better idea would be that a nation can hold office as President/Chancellor for two consecutive terms (hey can run for re-election), but then is ineligible to serve again until sitting out one complete term.
Reisal- Global Force
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No, I think it was every two monthsPlanita wrote:Didn't we have a election every month in the World Alliance?
Vajorr- Global Force
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That was one of my ideas, but I didn't know how to put it into wordsTalanzaar wrote:"The Chancellor is elected to a two month term repeatable only once by members of the Esamir Assembly"
"The President is elected by the people to a two month term repeatable once consecutively only"
I think a better idea would be that a nation can hold office as President/Chancellor for two consecutive terms (hey can run for re-election), but then is ineligible to serve again until sitting out one complete term.
Reisal- Global Force
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Alright. This allows nations to serve again (I think we will eventually run out of nations to fill those roles if we keep that old rule)Planita wrote:That was one of my ideas, but I didn't know how to put it into wordsTalanzaar wrote:"The Chancellor is elected to a two month term repeatable only once by members of the Esamir Assembly"
"The President is elected by the people to a two month term repeatable once consecutively only"
I think a better idea would be that a nation can hold office as President/Chancellor for two consecutive terms (hey can run for re-election), but then is ineligible to serve again until sitting out one complete term.
Also, so far there are 33 elected offices that will be up for election. Do you think we will be able to fill all 33 offices?
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With a 100 nations and growing, I think we can.
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Talanzaar wrote: Also, so far there are 33 elected offices that will be up for election. Do you think we will be able to fill all 33 offices?
We could hold a poll that asks "if the proposed Constitution was adopted today, would you be interested in holding one of the political offices?". If there are more than 33 responses, it may be safe to assume the positions will be filled.
Kaevi- Ascendancy
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Talanzaar wrote: No, I think it was every two months
Actually, it was every three months.
Vernius wrote:Talanzaar wrote: Also, so far there are 33 elected offices that will be up for election. Do you think we will be able to fill all 33 offices?
We could hold a poll that asks "if the proposed Constitution was adopted today, would you be interested in holding one of the political offices?". If there are more than 33 responses, it may be safe to assume the positions will be filled.
Saying you're going to do something and actually doing it are two different things. We should allow some roles to be filled by same person, except for the judiciary. While I do hope more nations become active on the forums in the future, we should have a plan in place that would take care of the eventual lull in activity.
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Kaevi wrote:Talanzaar wrote: No, I think it was every two months
Actually, it was every three months.Vernius wrote:Talanzaar wrote: Also, so far there are 33 elected offices that will be up for election. Do you think we will be able to fill all 33 offices?
We could hold a poll that asks "if the proposed Constitution was adopted today, would you be interested in holding one of the political offices?". If there are more than 33 responses, it may be safe to assume the positions will be filled.
Saying you're going to do something and actually doing it are two different things. We should allow some roles to be filled by same person, except for the judiciary. While I do hope more nations become active on the forums in the future, we should have a plan in place that would take care of the eventual lull in activity.
Indeed. It isn't realistic to think that all 33 positions will be filled immediately, or for that matter ever be filled. 33 people is a pretty good chunk of the region, not to mention more nations than are already registered on the forums.
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I understand your points, but my thought is that if 33 people can be bothered to respond to the poll, it's entirely possible (though not guaranteed) that they would care enough to follow through.
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Vernius wrote:I understand your points, but my thought is that if 33 people can be bothered to respond to the poll, it's entirely possible (though not guaranteed) that they would care enough to follow through.
It is not entirely possible. Clicking two buttons on a simple NS poll is far easier than registering, reading, and discussing issues on a separate forum. We have run into the issue before where we had nations in the region register on the forums and eventually getting a seat in government, but never being involved outside of that. This makes it impossible to get anything done as parliamentary voting counts cannot be reduced with the nation(s) still residing, although inactive, in the region to allow the active nations to pass any sort of legislation. This causes frustration among the active nations and those same nations become apathetic themselves.
Vernius- Posts : 8
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I meant a poll on these forums (which a nation would have to register and take the time to vote), but I do understand your point.
New point: either we find a way to encourage activity in the regional government or we find a way to reduce the number of positions.
New point: either we find a way to encourage activity in the regional government or we find a way to reduce the number of positions.
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Judiciary- no changes (7)
Lower House- allow Chancellor to be a lower house member (15 incl. 1)
Upper House- allow President to be an upper house member (9 incl. 1)
This lowers the total nation count to 31.
Include a clause allowing up to 1/3 of upper house seats to be filled by lower house members except the Chancellor.
This lowers the total nation count to ~28.
If this still seems to large, we may want to reduce the lower house seats to 11 or 13. We must remember that this isn't a huge region, so a large government isn't really necessary.
Lower House- allow Chancellor to be a lower house member (15 incl. 1)
Upper House- allow President to be an upper house member (9 incl. 1)
This lowers the total nation count to 31.
Include a clause allowing up to 1/3 of upper house seats to be filled by lower house members except the Chancellor.
This lowers the total nation count to ~28.
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If this still seems to large, we may want to reduce the lower house seats to 11 or 13. We must remember that this isn't a huge region, so a large government isn't really necessary.
Reisal- Global Force
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Exactly. Our current numbers needs to be cut down.Kaevi wrote:Judiciary- no changes (7)
Lower House- allow Chancellor to be a lower house member (15 incl. 1)
Upper House- allow President to be an upper house member (9 incl. 1)
This lowers the total nation count to 31.
Include a clause allowing up to 1/3 of upper house seats to be filled by lower house members except the Chancellor.
This lowers the total nation count to ~28.-----
If this still seems to large, we may want to reduce the lower house seats to 11 or 13. We must remember that this isn't a huge region, so a large government isn't really necessary.
Lets get the essentials down first:
We need the Chancellor and the President --- 2
We also need a chief Justice --- 3
Then we need asscociate justices (I think there should be 3) --- 7
Lower house needs to be cut down, maybe 7 seats --- 14
Upper house should have 5 seats --- 19
19 nations is a fair size for a region like us
Kaevi- Ascendancy
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Talanzaar wrote:
Exactly. Our current numbers needs to be cut down.
Lets get the essentials down first:
We need the Chancellor and the President --- 2
We also need a chief Justice --- 3
Then we need asscociate justices (I think there should be 3) --- 7
Lower house needs to be cut down, maybe 7 seats --- 14
Upper house should have 5 seats --- 19
19 nations is a fair size for a region like us
Three associate justices, plus the chief would give an even amount in the judiciary. This could make verdicts difficult when the court is evenly divided. I say 4 associates with a chief.
Although your numbers are the most realistic of what we're able to get as of now, we may want to include a clause that adds a certain amount of seats to the upper and lower houses for every 200 nations who join the region. After 500 or so nations reside in the region, the judiciary would add two associate seats. Whether or not we will ever reach this amount is uncertain, but at least we would have a plan in place.
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