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    Post by Yellasia Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:26 pm

    alright so I don't see the thread I made going anywhere (understandably) and I kinda want to jump into the modern RP so I wonder if we should just collaborate on a basic outline of Yellasian history in here to make it integrated?

    I'll start with the basics up until the thread.

    Greater Yellasian History

    930 AD: Legend says Carl Cockatoo led settlers to the uninhabited Island of Yell, who would later become the Yellasians and the Low. The exact origins of these nations is shrouded in mystery.
    930-1300: Age of Anarchy- sometimes referred to as the Normo-Socialist period. Yellasian (and later Low) culture developed and flourished in a loose society without a central state or identity.
    1312-1381: The Unification Period. Kingdom of Yellasia and Low Coalition form.
    1381-1388: "Ancient Low War"- ends when Yellasia repels Low invasion.
    *lol forgot this part that I had in the WA*
    1670-1700: Yellasian Enlightenment.
    1700-1702: Contact with outside world. Arveyres first nation to recognise Yellasia. Eurasians and Duresians make small settlements on Yellasian territory.
    1702-: Colonial Era

    Alright, so for this part, I was thinking Duresia could make some small settlements (like New Amsterdam or something like that) that get absorbed into the Eurasian territory after full colonisation. New Tarajan, being a colonial empire could maybe play a part in this as well.

    I wonder what your plan was though. Was your colony going to be more just economic or were there a sizable amount of settlers trying to create a new 'land' so to speak? 'cause if there's actual settlers that could be a good plot twist creating a really dynamic history (like a Zimbabwe style RP). what I'm thinking is that there's a very brief conflict where the Yellasians and the Low fight against Eurasia, and we surrender, facing annihilation, on the condition we can keep our traditional leadership (our monarchs). despite this, Eurasian settlers (with Duresian/New Tarajani influence) come in, give the island a new name and everything, and in effect make it a full colony of Eurasia. during the Yellasian Revolution, people are weirded out. we are seen as radical and have a dog as our king. towards the end, when Eurasia is about to accept the situation, the colonial settlements declare their own independence to avoid "savages" taking over. the Low Revolution is going on at the same time.

    so we'd have a four wayconflict that could involve foreign powers as well creating this really dynamic, complicated history. in the modern period we seem like natural allies though so I'm thinking 1976-onwards (when you become socialist) can be like our detente period.
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    Post by New Tarajan Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:51 pm

    If Yellasia reaches independence in the XIX century, it could be easy to make that Tarajan supported the settlers against Eurasia in revenge for the independence of New-Zealand.
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    Post by Eurasia Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:21 am

    Yeah actually that would work really well.
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    Post by UK of Zackalantis Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:32 am

    Europe and Asia wrote:Don't forget that Zackalantis was part of Eurasia until 1845. We had colonies there too.

    1847.
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    Post by New Tarajan Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:35 am

    I just saw right now the map you've done for the colonial powers, Eurasia: nice job!
    Although I fear you forgot the Antanaresian Empire...
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    Post by Federation of Antanares Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:55 pm

    Antanares was never an empire! And no problem, I think would be a mess trace all my colonies around the world Very Happy
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    Post by Duresia Fri Jul 03, 2015 3:29 am

    What about this: Eurasia conquers most of Yellasia and colonizes it, but Duresia creates a small state that would be kinda like Hong Kong separated from Eurasian Yellasia but still dependent on some kind of trade and relations with it, what do you think?
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    Post by Eurasia Fri Jul 03, 2015 4:05 am

    Duresia wrote:What about this: Eurasia conquers most of Yellasia and colonizes it, but Duresia creates a small state that would be kinda like Hong Kong separated from Eurasian Yellasia but still dependent on some kind of trade and relations with it, what do you think?

    I'm fine with that. We can say that wherever the Duresian explorers land the Eurasians allow them to turn that small area into a Duresian colony-city-state.
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    Post by Eurasia Fri Jul 03, 2015 5:26 am

    Updated colonial map to match the expansions.

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    Post by Eurasia Fri Jul 03, 2015 5:28 am

    Eurasia is too big for itself.
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    Post by Yellasia Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:01 am

    here's a more exciting one (1840). Surprised

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    or for just Eurasia and New Tarajan (two biggest and direct rivals):

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    kinda think we should do a WWI type RP set around 1900 seems like it'd be too big to not be good. Surprised

    already agreed with Duresia on the city state.

    also gonna have a more detailed outline to go off of for Yellasian history soon.
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    Post by Arveyres Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:06 am

    Do you think we could work out for a Macau for Arveyres? Since we have an ethnic connection + we're a very peaceful nation. This could also improve the competitive spirit seeing as how we are a part of NT (after 1785). We are also on good terms with both Eurasia and Duresia at the time.
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    Post by Yellasia Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:08 am

    Yeah I'm down.
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    Post by UK of Zackalantis Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:52 am

    I think a 1900 world war would be great idea.
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    Post by Yellasia Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:52 am

    I think 1914-1919 would be a good time period for it. New-Zealand independence and the New Tarajani revolution could happen in the aftermath of the war. or New-Zealand could be like Italy and switch sides towards the end via successful independence.

    also during 1914-1919 we already have a war between New Tarajan and UKZ, but it could be expanded. we have the backstory already. after Yellasian and UKZ independence, Eurasia lost a huge chunk of its empire, leaving New Tarajan as the largest empire in the world. New Tarajan continues to be expansionist and fairly belligerent, so Eurasia tries to compensate for this in other ways. there is an arms race between the two, and Eurasia sets up a bunch of military treaties with other large empires as well as its former colony UKZ, who is scared being right on the border of New Tarajan. there is disputed territory between the two, and after years of what is basically a cold war, something happens that triggers New Tarajan to occupy the territory and war breaks out between New Tarajan and UKZ, beginning a chain reaction that brings all the world powers in.

    Yellasia and the Low will remain neutral but end up fighting each other on opposing sides (idk what sides yet we'd have to see how it plays out).
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    Post by New Tarajan Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:48 am

    A WWI? Why not?

    The Tarajani Revolution (the Communist one) was triggered by the very poor performance of the army against the UKZ and final loss of Sdudeti-Karabak....but it could be easily re-designed to match a World War.
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    Post by Eurasia Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:00 am

    As long as I get to invade something I'm good.
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    Post by UK of Zackalantis Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:05 am

    New Tarajan wrote:A WWI? Why not?

    The Tarajani Revolution (the Communist one) was triggered by the very poor performance of the army against the UKZ and final loss of Sdudeti-Karabak....but it could be easily re-designed to match a World War.

    May be the battle for Sdudeti-Karabak could be a part of the Worl War and then perhaps my side loses the war and the treaty of surrender states that you get Sdudeti-Karabak back.
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    Post by Duresia Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:27 am

    Europe and Asia wrote:As long as I get to invade something I'm good.

    Same here, lemme invade, I want to launch a huge invasion.
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    Post by New Tarajan Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:50 pm

    Zackalantis wrote:
    New Tarajan wrote:A WWI? Why not?

    The Tarajani Revolution (the Communist one) was triggered by the very poor performance of the army against the UKZ and final loss of Sdudeti-Karabak....but it could be easily re-designed to match a World War.

    May be the battle for Sdudeti-Karabak could be a part of the Worl War and then perhaps my side loses the war and the treaty of surrender states that you get Sdudeti-Karabak back.

    In reality, the outcome should be the opposite! Zackalantis should win the war...then the defeat triggers the Communist Revolution in Tarajan.
    The situation of the Sdudeti-Karabak would be then re-designed well after the return of the monarchy in 1944 (we could make it through a new, brief conflict...or resolve it peacefully).
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    Post by Yellasia Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:34 pm

    I think the war should end essentially end in a stalemate (on a global level) but Zackalantis could still 'win' Sdudeti-Karabak.

    this would probably be the funnest historical rp let's do this yeah?

    I'm thinking Eurasia and Duresia could be allies against New Tarajan. already global right there lol.
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    Post by Arveyres Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:38 pm

    Working on a document that we can all collaborate on, which anyone can feel free to update at any time if their history changes. If you want to add your history to this, please choose a color and have fun!

    The Collaborative History Document

    This is intended to be the successor of the Esamir History Analysis thread which sees little (no) updating, with errors pointed out by others.
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    Post by Ivania Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:13 am

    Anybody want to have some Luca ruins in your country? We used to be explorers/raiders/colonizers/conquerors back in the olden days.

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    Same here, lemme invade, I want to launch a huge invasion.
    Since we are neighbours we should have some kind of connection , no?
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    Post by Eurasia Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:21 am

    Is the idea of a WWI done

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