History Collaboration Thread

Well, it looks like I'll be the first one to inaugurate the topic.

First of all, I wish to ask to everyone: is there someone wishing to roleplay a country with a strong mercenary tradition? (much like Switzerland in the past)
I need it for the creation of a permanent group of foreign troops inside the Royal Tarajani Army (and still active).

Also, to Planita, Zackalantis and Antanares: why not uniting our histories?

The UKZ was a former colony of Ireland. Atenosia why don't the two of us be former colonies of Ireland and at tye time of our independence (mine is on 2/1/1847) we parted like India and Pakistan.

Atanosia was founded by wanderers dreaming of a People's Empire. When they arrived on the southern beaches of Present Atanosia the Empire of Atanea was established, which is my father in this here https://esamirforum.forumotion.net/t83p45-esamir-ball#2898 and he sure as hell was big. After a couple of decades the imperialism kicked in and conquered 3/5ths of the continent, a while later NT, Antanares and South Planita declared war on the Atanean Empire and resulted in astalemate, Atanea didn't have the resources to continue such a large scale war so they gave the annexed nations' sovereignty back and the empire slowly decayed into the Federal Republic of Atanosia you see today. In other words, the history of Atanosia wouldn't be compatible with your suggestion since Ireland would be under it's rule.



*sigh* Those were the days...

Well, if you wish to resolve the issue, it would be possible to find a compromise...also, we would need to hear Ireland's opinion.

Also, Atenosia, at least we would need dates...in order to find a possible chronological position for all of this...

Yes Atenosia dates please.

between 1600 and 1850.

Present day UKZ was divided into several kingdoms. Around 34. The king of the kingdom of Mikum, lead a conquest and conquered all the kingdoms which was successful. His name was Zachary and he called his new kingdom zackalantis. Hence the entire region was hence known as zackalantis. This happened in the 1500s.

After his death, (mid 16th century) the kingdoms split into around 20 of them. The Scottish arrived from Ireland (1600) and managed to conquer present day UKZ.
Then the southern leaders of the zach freedom movement joined forces with Ireland who had conquered the Scottish homeland. The Nothern leaders of the movement sided with Scotland. Scotland lost and Ireland went back on it's promise for zach independence and on the 21st of December 1830 zackalantis joined the Irish empire.

2nd January 1847 the UKZ became independent under an elective monarchy where the monarchs of the 20 kingdoms would elect a monarch every five years.
In 1850 the nation went into civil war with the zach revolution to overthrow the monarchy. Around 2-3 royal families were completly wiped out. The monarachs and the democrats settled their differences and the war was put to an end with the adoption of the new constitution on the 20th of May 1855.

So that's my history.

HISTORY UPDATE

What led to the return of sovereignty to the annexed nations was the persistedness of natives in those nations, difficulty in maintaining control over the territory etc. It's the same with the Roman empire, too big to handle. The war made things worse by draining on resources, giving hope to unlocal civilians in the empire and increased protests against the permanent occupation. At the end of the war, Ireland and North Planita were the first to be given back their independence since it was hard to control them. Afterwards came Zackalantis since there was little to no central government focused in it and was expensive to keep, Meigmaland was the last. The remaining empire was a mass between Ireland and Zackalantis, accompanied by several islands in the South and larger islands in the North. Atanea was in ruins and its people didn't approve of the Imperial Lineage's progress in fixing the nation which inevitably led to mass riots and eventually a revolution. The Emperor at the time, Atleus V, was deposed and exiled from Atanea. The new dream of the Atanean people was a nation of harmony and peace, with only one class, a class of wellbeing and luxuries. And so, the Federal Republic of Atanosia was founded on these factors and became a prominent member of the international community.

For the Islands of Targahar? (the two near Kaevi). Is possible that Antanares conquered them in the 1845?
Because, according to a little scheme that I done for my country, the nation result divided up to the 1512, year of the end of the War of the Four Jewels, after that the country was unified under one single king. In the 1780 in Antanares started a bloody civil war between the North and the South and after the war, that ended in the 1802, the country know a period of prosperity. It is possible that, at the peak of the glory, Antanares started a war for the two islands.

Federation of Antanares wrote:For the Islands of Targahar? (the two near Kaevi). Is possible that Antanares conquered them in the 1845?
Because, according to a little scheme that I done for my country, the nation result divided up to the 1512, year of the end of the War of the Four Jewels, after that the country was unified under one single king. In the 1780 in Antanares started a bloody civil war between the North and the South and after the war, that ended in the 1802, the country know a period of prosperity. It is possible that, at the peak of the glory, Antanares started a war for the two islands.

Seeing that I don't have those islands, we can do that.

Anyone interested in some historical trading routes? I need a way to explain the increased trade my nation saw during the 1600's.

Reconstructing the history of my nation is,frankly,very difficult. In fact it is nothing more than the evolution,even fantasized and faster,of the old European Union. So,my country reproduces all respects the history and culture of Europe. But how can I combine this with the history of the region? Some of you can help me out?

United States of Europe wrote:Reconstructing the history of my nation is,frankly,very difficult. In fact it is nothing more than the evolution,even fantasized and faster,of the old European Union. So,my country reproduces all respects the history and culture of Europe. But how can I combine this with the history of the region? Some of you can help me out?

Europe could have been an ancient community of nations once that had the most advanced political systems in Esamir at the time. Most of these states were kingdoms while others were similar to modern democracy but they all had close ties with eachother. At some point, a civilization that is where modern Aloia now stands declared war on the European community and was almost equal in strength but its focus on military made it a notable threat. This event led to the union of all the states to rival their newfound enemy. The war resulted in Europe's favor so this diverse and optimistic union prevailed throughout the ages and slowly, politics helped form the new and capable United States of Europe.

Atenosia wrote:

United States of Europe wrote:Reconstructing the history of my nation is,frankly,very difficult. In fact it is nothing more than the evolution,even fantasized and faster,of the old European Union. So,my country reproduces all respects the history and culture of Europe. But how can I combine this with the history of the region? Some of you can help me out?

Europe could have been an ancient community of nations once that had the most advanced political systems in Esamir at the time. Most of these states were kingdoms while others were similar to modern democracy but they all had close ties with eachother. At some point, a civilization that is where modern Aloia now stands declared war on the European community and was almost equal in strength but its focus on military made it a notable threat. This event led to the union of all the states to rival their newfound enemy. The war resulted in Europe's favor so this diverse and optimistic union prevailed throughout the ages and slowly, politics helped form the new and capable United States of Europe.

You'd have to have Aloia agree to that though.

Uhm one of the city of Antanares, Sessadraina, was a sort of Republic in the style of Venice and, in the 1500-1600, Antanares started the exploration of the rest of the world. So we can create a sort of trade route between our countries Eurasia.

That'd be perfect.

Anyone here an old royalist nation that would have gone though a colonial phase (much like Britain)? Cause my nation is supposed to a relatively new nation that was founded a couple hundred years ago, then got independence forcefully through a civil war and became a republic (Much like America).

Anyone want to be that old nation which founded me?

I can do it. We weren't a monarchy but we definitely had an empire at one point. It was more of an aristocracy without a monarch.

Ireland was like that NZ, in fact Ireland ruled us.

Okay that would work. You said you were a colony like India, so I guess you had natives already. I could be an actual settlers colony, like Australia and New Zealand. So that would kinda make us sister nations

So your saying zachs from Irish Zackalantis came to Irish New Zealand?
Sounds good.
Oh could we say that the zach crown ruled a small portion of NZ that way you can be a part of my Commonwealth association of nations.

Oh also this is an open invitation to all nations to join the Zach Commonwealth association of nations.

New Tarajan also had a colonial past (indeed, Meisjegronden, Ashar, and new small islands I just claimed are the remnants of the old Tarajani colonial empire), so, if you wish, there's also a third country here!

Zack, about your history....what do you think about making some conflict for the two northern puppets of New Tarajan (North Ajania and Sdudeti-Karabak)?
Also, the last one could take place in the XXth century, justifying the subsequent Tarajani Revolution...

NT I've got an idea. The kingdoms were given an option to leave the UKZ when negotiations for democracy were going on so these puppets of yours could have left the UKZ then.
But tge Tarajani empire conquered them or something...

Zackalantis wrote:NT I've got an idea. The kingdoms were given an option to leave the UKZ when negotiations for democracy were going on so these puppets of yours could have left the UKZ then.
But tge Tarajani empire conquered them or something...

Well, this could be an idea for the definitive end of the series of conflicts....but we need also to find a beginning. Particularly for Sdudeti-Karabak, my idea is this: the land was independent after the conquest of the Ajanic Empire and the foundation of the Kingdom...then, the Kings made several campaigns to subjugate it, but the few Ajanic strongholds which remained there finally decided, in order to survive, to call for the protection of Zackalantis, thus involving you in the conflict. This could happen around the end of the XVI and the beginning of the XVII century, since in that period Tarajan is living a period of internal strife.
Then, when the renewed Tarajani monarchy came back against that area, Zackalantis intervened for the first time, causing a conflict.
I think we could have three or four of them before the final solution you proposed.